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Repair of Mean Well RSP-2400-24

I bought off Ebay one of this high power switch mode power supply, which was advertised as being broken and sold as not working.
It was said, that it blows mains fuse if you try to connect it.
After bidding, I won... and for low price. Few day later I got one big box, was undamaged.

Got it out of the box, put if on bench, hooked it up to supply and... sure enough, it was conducting current at very low voltage for input to power supply.
Took out few screws, removed housing and disconnected two powerful fans.

Looks so small, wouldn't have guessed that this can do more then 2400w on output!
Nothing on top looks out of place, broken, exploded and/or that it let out magic smoke.

Let me take some time and explain where is what.

Turning it upside down, to check if anything can be seen from here. Layout is nice and simple to understand.

What do we have here? that looks like something went wrong here.

That D11 have seen better days I bet..

That D11 have seen better days I bet..

I have no idea what could have happen here, but it does look like it was arcing over. And is make no sense, why would it. I'll get back to this and explain.
On the same picture you can see that we have at least one casualty. That D11, sot23 has seen some better days, it did explode and have part of housing missing.
And that is near one of the power stage, so that would point to that weird input "short".

Desoldered the first power stage. Its part of PFC, which have three mosfets and one diode.
I removed them along with heat sink the were on.

Behind it, there is PFC control daughter board, on the right is blue main cap (after PFC stage)
On the left, that small transformer like thing is PFC inductor. Yes that is right, >2400w and so small

The other side of same PFC control daughter board, which you can't see much since everything is so compact.
PFC controller is UCC2818, this you would expect to see in this kinda supply. It even says in datasheet, that application for this controller is "Industrial Power Supplies", which this one indeed is.


Note, that on this board, there is date printed, which would make this supply max of 7 years old. Second thing is that every where you can seen RSP-3000 markings, which is interesting by itself, since there is 3000w, top of the line, version of it also. Does that mean what internals (maybe not fets and diodes) are rated for 3000w? Who knows? No really, if you do or have RSP-3000, do let me know, I would like to see inside of it!

Anyway, lets measure PFC diode, which is STTH3006.
All good, now the mosfets.

Yes, that doesn't look good.. Huston we have a problem.. First mosfet is shorted. And from experience, so will be all other, that are in parallel. And they are, damn..
(Update: Few days after, I went back and measured each one again, and this time I put 130Vdc on them and connected gate to source, to keep fet closed. And to my surprice, two of them were fine, I guess due to each having its own driver. I guess only one was making the supply blow fuse and that one did measure bad, gate is connected to source and drain to source...totaly dead. So I'm left with two good fets for some other project. I still did right, by not mixing E6 with C6, even if they are almost the same)
PFC mosfets are from Infineon, part number IPW60R190C6. It's 600v, about 20A, 0.17R mosfet, 1400pF input capacitance, 85pF output capacitance, 63nC total gate charge and one SLOW diode. But as far as I know, if this supply has average current mode, that this is not a problem at all.

Looking for new mosfets, I had an option to get some that would be better. Went on farnell.com and checked what 600v mosfets with same or lower RdsOn are available. But I had hard time. Whether they had lower ON resistance and higher input/output capacitance or price of over 10€ a piece, going up to 20€! Also no free samples that would work.

Looking at Infineon site, you can see how different series of mosfets are compared to each other. C6 is positioned below E6, P6, CP and newer C7. I really like how they have similar series, but some are more easy to use and some are better in performance, but need better layouts and things like that.

Since I couldn't decide for which one to go for, either E6 or P6 (not for C7, since they don't have them in TO247 yet). I have found, that they have simulation models, which would help a lot.

Here is article, where I show you how you can do that with LTspice.

In short, I looked at E6 and P6 as well as C7 (even if I can't use them), how they compare to C6, which were in there originally.
E6 which was what I replace them with are just a bit better then original, so everything will work the same if not just a bit better.

Until I got them, I still wanted to do some work on supply. And by luck I had one 900v mosfet at hand, which would be good enough for testing. Put that one in, check that there were no shorts and from before I know, that I had correct voltages and even ucc2818 output pulses for fets.

This would indicate that first stage is working and could be powered up. But not with mains, since you can't be sure, that everything else behind PFC is ok. Hooked up two of my HP supplys up in series, on first one set both channels to 50v max, on the other to 130v, which is its max. That did power small AUX supply as well as PFC, which charged main caps to almost 390Vdc.

So far so good, this is a good start, not totally important stage, since supply (second, output stage) would work without it also, as you will come to find out.
But after moving probes to output, no voltage was there. Ok, how so? Went back from output in direction of input, trying to find where voltage stopped, since I knew it was present on main caps. Looking as simplified schematic above, main transformer had nothing on it, those 4 fets had gate waveforms and voltage on main caps was ok. The only part in path was fuse.

And sure enough, it was blown. Measured all 4 fets, which were fine, so I guess fuse saved them, and my pocket, since I didn't have to buy those Mosfets also. Simple desoldering job, added one of my own, 5A ones, for this test time. Connected everything back for testing and... nothing. Supply still in the protect mode. At this point I still didn't had fans connected, I didn't think it would look for them. But I was wrong. After hooking them to board and repowering supply, I saw green light and output voltage! Success!

Took some time, left it powered on and keeping my eye on it, making sure all is right.
At this point, there was nothing but to hook it put to AC, since my power supplys can't do much in terms of power.
That went also well, so it was time to find different loads. Tests with 20w, 150w, even 600w or so went great, everything worked as expected.

So I needed a load, that would take >2500w, had low ohm value, that would take about 100A of current. The only one thing I could think of, that I could make was, take piece of thin wire (thin for 100A) and use it as resistor, under water, to take away that huge amount of power without burning and melting. Yes, this supply has no problem melting wire, fun fact hehe.

And here my next problem laid. Do you know, if you every played with transformer cores or many turns of air inductor, then you pass current through, how the coil jumps, pulls tight, one turn to other, of one part of core to other? Yes, you guessed it, that happened. But since this was bare wire (steel, I think), it shorted turns, lowered resistance and make pretty good short. Supply protected itself, so this part works.

I needed to wire not to move with high current, so I wound it on piece of wood, making sure it would stay there. That worked great. This than allowed me to push the supply to its limits. Since this supply has option, to set output voltage with input voltage on of the headers, I did that also, so I had control of output voltage and current.

Now the fun part began, pushing supply more and more, until I got to just over 23v, where I had no more control, I couldn't get above that. That could mean only one thing. Something else is damaged, since at 23v and some current, there was only 1700w on output. Ok, when I say "only" I do think that is a lot, but I could't leave it at that.

I opened it out, so I had access to some test points on main motherboard. I wanted to look at PFC voltage,I know one of two things must have been at play. Either there was current limit, that was active (and/or was not working right) or I had too little main voltage to supply higher output voltage (if PFC would not work). And since there was already known failure in PFC section, with it's current sense, I was leaning in that direction.

Did the same test again and what I saw was, that PFC voltage went down rather soon, with just 100-200w load. That would leave only mains rectified voltage of 320v or below. I think it was more like 300v after the sag of mains @ 1700w.

I disassembled it all again. I knew, that current sense transformer had damage around it, one diode that rectifies what voltage did blow and since that was wotking how, I looked at waveform. It was very high, even for unloaded supply, I'm talking 10-20v, far too much. That would make ucc2018 think, that current is already to high and it had to limit it. But why would that voltage be so high? It's like that transformer was not loaded. AHAA! Where are those resistors, since they are not next to diode, where there is pads for them, but were not populated. Following traces I get to this point.

Two 24 resistors in parallel, that seems about right. Measured them and... few kilo ohms, that's right, few kilo's! Almost no load for transformers. Too those out, I replaced them with 22ohms, since that is close enough. Asassembled everything back and get ready for another test. And was it a test!

I had on output: 27.45Vdc @ 84.2A, which is just above 2310w. At the same time I had 217Vac @ 12.33A on input with 0.94 power factor, which would read 2540w! Awsome, that still makes this supply 91% efficient. At this point I didn't know if constant current is ok, so I halfed the resistor, so I wouldn't push that much power. Supply did constant current @ 103.7A! What a beast!

This supply will draw about 2800w for about 2400w on output. I now call this supply fixed!

Parts that had failed: 10A HRC fuse, two 22R smd 0805, one diode in sot23 (BAS16), one and only one PFC mosfet out of three (ipw60r190c6) and.. that is it.

One thing that is very interesting is this: output current sense does not use sense resistors! It uses FHS 40-P/SP600 from LEM, check that out.
Also a link to a Photoshop file, where you can hide and unhide one layer, makes tracing PFC controller pcb really easy.

 

Main controller board:

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